Textual content messages between defendant Karen Learn and ATF agent Brian Higgins are important to understanding the theories behind each the prosecution and protection’s case.
The texts have been learn in Norfolk Superior Courtroom in Dedham for the second trial on Friday, Could 10, 2025, by Massachusetts State Police Sgt. Yuriy Bukhenik, a principal case investigator. The texts have been learn in court docket for the primary trial on Could 24, 2024, by Higgins himself.
Case fundamentals
Learn, 45, of Mansfield, is accused of killing Boston Police Officer John O’Keefe, her boyfriend of about two years on the time of his dying on Jan. 29, 2022. She faces prices of second-degree homicide, manslaughter whereas working a motorcar underneath the affect, and leaving the scene of a collision inflicting dying.
You possibly can learn the fundamentals of what to find out about Karen Learn’s second trial right here and the fundamentals of who to know right here. Learn an analogous rundown the Herald printed forward of the primary trial right here and discover an index to the whole first trial protection right here.
Prosecutors say Learn struck John O’Keefe along with her Lexus SUV and left him to freeze and die on the entrance garden of 34 Fairview Highway in Canton within the early morning of Jan. 29, 2022, after one more argument of their crumbling relationship. They are saying she was drunk and emotional however that the strike was no accident.
The protection counters that Learn merely dropped O’Keefe off on the home and that he did go inside, the place others beat him after which put his physique outdoors to make his accidents appear to be a automobile strike. They are saying the house owner, Brian Albert, is a part of an influential household in Canton and the Boston Police sergeant had some pull amongst legislation enforcement who conveniently failed to analyze him.
How do the textual content messages determine within the theories?
The textual content messages between Learn and Higgins present some form of relationship forming between them inside two weeks of O’Keefe’s dying. They change pet names like “doll” and “babe,” affirm that they kissed at the very least as soon as and went on at the very least one date to an unnamed bar in West Roxbury.
However the texts aren’t mere flirtations. Learn reveals deep dissatisfaction in her relationship with O’Keefe.
She repeatedly brings up jealousy over O’Keefe allegedly being “all over” the youthful sister of a good friend throughout a big group journey to have fun the brand new yr. She much more typically brings up the lack of her independence as a result of she was serving to O’Keefe increase his niece and nephew. One instance: “Because I went from being solo to trying to give attention to kids. Who aren’t mine. And I never wanted kids.”
The texts assist the prosecution by establishing that Learn was sad in her relationship with O’Keefe, which might give motivation towards a violent finish. The texts assist the protection by establishing Higgins as a rival paramour who might have taken up fists in opposition to O’Keefe in his pursuit of Learn. It’s as much as the jury to see which they discover extra believable.
The texts
Under is a transcript of the texts between Learn and Higgins starting on Jan. 16, 2022, at 12:59 a.m.
The timestamps of every particular person texts weren’t supplied within the court docket presentation and so aren’t supplied right here. A timestamp was supplied forward of every grouping of texts, so you may infer that teams of texts got here in comparatively fast succession if there is no such thing as a timestamp between them.
On this transcript, a “K” previous a textual content signifies that Karen Learn despatched the textual content and a “B” previous a textual content signifies that Brian Higgins despatched the textual content. A ahead slash, / , separated by areas signifies that it was a separate textual content however despatched by the identical sender however with out the opposite sending one thing to interrupt the circulate. Emojis and pictures are given fundamental descriptions contained in parentheses.
The Herald did its greatest to supply a verbatim transcript and any spelling or grammar errors are most probably discovered within the authentic, however the Herald gives no assure that it made no errors in its transcription.
Jan. 16, 2022. 12:59 a.m.
Ok: You’re sizzling
B: Are you severe or messing with me?
Ok: No I’m severe
B: Feeling is mutual / Is that unhealthy? / How lengthy have you ever thought that???
Ok: Are you okay driving? You don’t need to keep right here?
B: I’m positive. I’ve an workplace on the PD / You didn’t reply the query
Ok: Quite you say right here
B: I want / I believe you’re messing with me
Ok: Why do you assume that?
B: As a result of that is so out of left discipline / The place did these emotions come from?
Ok: I simply assume you’re like me
B: That means?
Ok: Do you may have your individual children?
B: I’ve no children / How am I such as you? / Ummmmm / Howdy
Ok: Aren’t we alike??
B: I believe so /So why did you get my quantity and attain out to me? / Shoot straight with me
Ok: I informed you. I simply assume we’re alike. / Proper??
B: Sure, agree / Now what?
Ok: I don’t know
B: Ummmm / Shouldn’t you recognize?
Ok: Do you want me?
B: Sure / From soar
Ok: When was “jump”?
B: 1st time I noticed you
Ok: When was that??
B: Hmmmm / Hillside in your positive / When have been you ?
Ok: I don’t know…you’re simply my kind
B: You assume you may deal with me? / I believed you have been completely satisfied? / ?
Ok: How are you aware if I’m completely satisfied??
B: Simply assumed
Ok: Are you’re to deal with?? (Higgins places a query mark on it)
B: What do you want about me?
Ok: I simply really feel such as you’re from my neighborhood
B: Yeah / Ditto
Ok: And I believe you’re sizzling
BL You actually assume that? / I’ve all the time thought that about you
Ok: What?
B: That your sizzling / Good / Witty / However didn’t assume you have been
Ok: Witty??
B: Yea, that means fast with a response / Inform me why you bought my quantity and reached out to me
Ok: Simply thought we have been the identical/from the identical neighborhood
B: Are you afraid to say what’s in your thoughts? / On
Ok: No…didn’t I??
B: I’m glad I finished by. I ought to have come earlier. / Do you actually dwell in Mansfield?
Ok: Yeah I used to be principally begging you
B: You don’t must mattress me / Beg
Ok: Huh?
B: I gives you no matter you need. / How are you texting proper now? / Uggghjj / Leaving me hanging.
Ok: No
B: Youngsters / Kinda
Ok: How am I texting??
B: Is everybody asleep?
Ok: I’m simply wakeful on my telephone / Sure, they’re
B: I ought to have stayed lol / So now what?
Ok: Sure it is best to have
B: That may have been distracting / So know what….. / Now
Ok: Now what what?
B: Balls in your court docket
Ok: What would you like?
B: Loaded query / What would you like?
Ok: I requested you!
B: Nope, you initiated this / Spit it out
Ok: Hey— we’re single and we don’t have children. We will do no matter we wish
B: Don’t you may have a boyfriend?
Ok: The place are you?
B: Canton
Ok: The place?
B: My workplace on the PD / Why, are you going to Mansfield?
Ok: The place is that?
B: Canton PD
Ok: I’ve a home there. From earlier than I reconnected w John
B: Oh…… I really feel such as you’re probably not saying what’s in your thoughts
Ok: Do you want me?
B: Sure / Clearly
Ok: Come over to my home
B: When?
Ok: When works for you
B: Whoever / Every time / When works for you?
Ok: I requested you first
B: I believe you’re messing with me
Ok: I’m glad you came to visit tonight (smile emoji with crimson cheeks)
B: Me too / Balls in your court docket / What would you like Karen / You seemed nice tonight
Ok: I don’t know…what would you like??
B: You all the time don / Do
Ok: Yeesh, actually? Why! (Higgins places query mark on textual content) / ? / I seemed “great”? You’re filled with it
B: I believe your sizzling / All the time have thought that / Simply haven’t revealed my ideas
Ok: I’m sizzling for the Hillside. Low comps
B: Knock it off / Your sizzling interval / Are you glad you walked me out?
Ok: Ummm..sure 🙂 / Are you
B: Def / Sure / Are you going residence tonight or tomorrow am?
Ok: We kissed, proper? (Higgins places query mark on this textual content)
B: Is that this a trick query….
Ok: I don’t know once I’m going residence. I’m promoting my home (nervous face emoji) / What a trick query?
B: Are you transferring to Canton? / I’m following your lead with this
Ok: I dwell right here however I’ve a property in MField / Why my lead? I don’t need any duty
B: You began this proper? / Why did you get my quantity and every out to me? / Nonetheless haven’t informed me
Ok: Sorry – ought to I not have?
B: I’m positive with it / Simply don’t know why you may’t reply
Ok: You’re mad at me?
B: OMG / No, in no way / You’re fooling around
Ok: I informed you! / I simply assume you’re quite a bit like me and I’m drawn to you. Lots.
B: Feeling is mutual / I simply by no means noticed this coming
Ok: Why?
B: As a result of, I simply assumed you have been completely satisfied along with your scenario
Ok: I used to be. However issues have deteriorated.
B: Why? / How so? / What did Melissa say once you requested for my quantity?
Ok: It is vitally very sophisticated. He and I dated once we have been children after which his sister died and the whole lot bought fucked up.
B: He appears very into you
Ok: I simply informed Melissa that I had your quantity however misplaced it
B: That’s cute / She wasn’t suspicious / ?
Ok: No she’s nice
B: Does she know you want me?
Ok: She’s a sweetie / We simply agreed that you just’re nice
B: What does that imply?
Ok: I used to be jealous that she had your quantity
B: Such as you’re both all in otherwise you’re not / Why would you be jealous / I’m not drawn to her in any respect / I’ve all the time been drawn to you?
Ok: Actually?
B: Sure / Because the first time I noticed you / We’d have enjoyable
Ok: The place are you?
B: I informed you / Canton PD / My workplace / So are you promoting your home and transferring to Meadows? (query mark positioned on textual content)
Ok: Yeah however the place is that / I’ve had all my shit right here for a pair years and my home has been vacant. However I’d prefer to get nearer to the water
B: Hmmm / Are you breaking apart or staying collectively?
Ok: I don’t know. He attached w one other lady on trip. I’m very near his niece.. It’s a very fucked up scenario
B: When was that & how did you discover out he attached? / I don’t need to complicate your scenario
Ok: We went away for New Years. The 4 of us. I put the youngsters to mattress and located him within the foyer of our lodge throughout one in all our good friend. no matter. It doesn’t matter
B: It does matter / Did the bang?
Ok: Does that matter?
B: Sorry, I used to be simply asking / I used to be simply attempting to determine shit out
Ok: It doesn’t actually matter
B: Okay, I received’t ask once more
Ok: I don’t care 🙂 / It doesn’t matter
B: Okay, hear you loud and clear Karen
Ok: Uh okay
B: Why are you getting your factor all snarled over a easy query? / Thong
Ok: I’m not, am I??
B: You’re kinda getting defensive
Ok: By no means! / What’s the query?
B: Do you are feeling responsible texting me?
Ok: No
B: Okay / What would you like from me?
Ok: Nothing / Would you like something from me?
B: I’d hang around
Ok: Oh gee thanks
B: OMG / What am I suppose to say? / You’re being robust on me
Ok: None of us is married
B: True / So sport on?
Ok: we are able to say no matter we wish / Recreation on??
B: You ship combine messages / I want I stayed
Ok: Okay sport on then
B: Kinda / Are you able to cling?
Ok: Certain
B: I hope you toss and switch tonight
Ok: I all the time do
B: Why
Ok: Why’d you say that
B: I simply do
Ok: Why??
B: Trigger you’re contemporary
Ok: No I’m not
B: Okay / Do you all the time get what you need?
Ok: Be candy to me please (pray emoji)
B: I may very well be so candy
Ok: I’ve been very sick (Higgins places query mark on this textual content) / I had colon most cancers and ten surgical procedures in 18 mos. I’m a wreck
B: I had no thought / Are you okay now?
Ok: I by no means get what I need, simply what I want 🙂 / I’m okay
B: What do you want?
Ok: What must be content material
B: What can I do to make you cheerful
Ok: Haha don’t fear. I’ve all the time been very completely satisfied
B: You speak in riddles / Simply inform me why you contacted me
Ok: Huh?
B: What’s the large deal?
Ok: I informed you! / Simply assume you’re like me
B: What does that imply / Such as you need to cling with me?
Ok: You requested why I contacted you
B: Yea / I did ask
Ok: We’re attracted to one another, proper?
B: Affordable query / Sure, 100%
Ok: Okay / We did kiss earlier, no?
B: I believe you initiated that….. / No?
Ok: Yup / Do i owe you an apology?
B: OMG, no / Why are you being delicate
Ok: I’m not
B: Kinda
Ok: Pfft by no means / What would you like from me?
B: What’s on the desk?
Ok: What would you like ideally?
B: The actual deal
Sunday, Jan. 16, 2022. 7:37 a.m.
Ok: Doesn’t exist
B: Ha Ha
Sunday, Jan. 16, 2022. 5:53 p.m.
Ok: So that you like Hennessy XO??
Sunday, Jan. 16, 2022. 7:15 p.m.
B: I M hurting so unhealthy
Ok: Yeah me too. The Currans went after it once more at midday immediately (nervous emoji)
B: No method
Ok: This was about two hours earlier than you came to visit (shares a photograph that has been blacked out in court docket)
B: Ha Ha / I aM heading for drinks / Quickly
Ok: Actually??
B: Yeah
Tuesday, Jan. 18, 2022. 5:09 p.m.
Ok: What’s on faucet?
B: Ha Ha / What does that imply
Ok: Often it means what’re you as much as
B: Cute / I simply wrapped work / Unpacking some groceries / You? / What’s on “tap”
Ok: Additionally unpacking crap from my automobile
B: Something good
Ok: Nothing on faucet
B: Disgrace / You have been “ghost” yesterday
Ok: I can’t be the cruise director on daily basis!
B: Disgrace / “Julie McCoy” / Want I used to be at my Cape home in entrance of the hearth sipping a drink
Ok: Want I knew how you can use my hearth (involved emoji)
B: From Love Boat / How previous is your unhealthy self?
Ok: Haha that was my guess / 42 subsequent month / I do know the Love Boat / I used to be extra Brady Bunch
B: Ha Ha / What day?
Ok: 2/26
B: Good / Your only a tad poke / Poke
Ok: Pole / Bought y’a
B: When is the subsequent celebration / Pole / Oops
Ok: It’s all relative
B: What pole & poke?
Ok: I’d have a celebration each weekend if it have been up prime me / No – 42 = tad pole
B: Ohh
Ok: I preserve reminding myself that growing old is a privilege (involved emoji) / The higher events are at my home. No children.
B: Why are they higher?
Ok: Nicely, first, bc there’s no children
B: You have been ghost yesterday…… thought I heard the final of you.
Ok: Telephones work each methods
B: I don’t wanna disturb you or you may in any other case “engaged” / I don’t know your routine
Ok: I didn’t use the phrase “engaged” – did I?
B: Huh? / “Engaged” as like doing one thing with somebody
Ok: Sure that’s what I believed you meant
B: Are you being contemporary immediately?
Ok: No!
B: Now that you just sobered up / Ha Ha
Ok: I felt sober subsequent to everybody else on Sat 😉
B: Good level / You’re nonetheless “T”rouble / Ha Ha
Ok: Why am I??
B: (image of a drink in a cocktail glass) / Simply enjoying with you
Ok: What’s that
B: Whiskey, with an enormous ice dice
Ok: What sort of whiskey? Jameson proper?
B: (image of a jar of maraschino cherries) / Cherry in center
Ok: What good does that do?? / Are you in W Rox?
B: So good….. Yeah
Ok: Do you may have a 4:30am bell?
B: Tomorrow / ? / Why do you ask?
Ok: Attempting to determine what number of whiskeys you’re going to have
B: Relies upon / I don’t limit myself from having enjoyable / What number of Hennessy XO you ha ing?
Ok: None 🙁 I’ve none at my home
B: Ha Ha
Ok: I’m not actually Bother (Higgins makes Haha marker on this textual content)
B: Need me to select you up subsequent time I am going to the bottom? Often cheaper & tax free / Just a bit based mostly in your conduct
Ok: The bottom?
B: Navy base
Ok: I bought via the Henny quick
B: I store there quite a bit. I can as a veteran.
Ok: My conduct? I’m not married. I’m the one one who does the whole lot proper! / What sort of veteran? The place is the bottom?
B: Dude, chill LAX / Teasing you. Are you delicate? / Veteran from Iraq / I can go to any base however normally Hanscom in Bedford or down the Cape
Ok: Which base down the Cape? / Which department?
B: Military’s / Military
Ok: I’m not abnormally delicate
B: Joint Base Cape Cod / Awwww, I received’t be so arduous on you.
Ok: Omg you’re not. You known as me bother. That makes me sound unhealthy.
B: I used to be simply enjoying with you.
Ok: You weren’t, however that’s okay
B: Cease being delicate / Pleaseeeee
Ok: I’m not!
B: Okay / So what’s up?
Ok: Did you determine what number of whiskeys??
B: You imply tonight?
Ok: Sure
B: Unsure……I’m versatile & adaptable / Why are you so curious? / Are you consuming?
Ok: I haven’t had a drink but / Simply need to see what you’re up. On the lookout for an influencer. My day was looong.
B: Influenced how? / Are you in Canton or Mansfield tonight?
Ok: Influenced to have a drink despite the fact that it’s Tuesday / In Mansfield
B: How typically do you keep there? / Is it a pleasant crib? / Home or rental?
Ok: I keep right here a couple of times every week / Home / I assume it’s good (shrug emoji) I prefer it
B: How lengthy have you ever owned it? / What number of beds / Rooms
Ok: 2017 or 18 / 5 bedrooms
B: What????? / Why so bid / Huge
Ok: I don’t know..? It’s an previous colonial. It has lots of bedrooms
B: Greater than you clearly Want / Are you transferring to Canton?
Ok: I do know severely. Some rooms I solely go into to mud / Not any time quickly / I’m there more often than not however typically it’s quite a bit
B: Lots why? / Do you even know what you need? / Or who?
Ok: As a result of I went from being solo to attempting to offer consideration to children. Who aren’t mine. And I by no means needed children.
B: I believed you have been on this completely satisfied relationship
Ok: Everyone seems to be completely satisfied on the Hillside!
B: Oh god / You keep away from issues
Ok: It’s only a very sophisticated dynamic with the 4 of us. He isn’t lower out for what he’s doing. And the youngsters current fixed points.
B: I believe he believes he’s doing the suitable factor.
Ok: Nicely in fact he’s however his coronary heart isn’t in it / It’s solely as a result of he was very very near his sister
B: I understand how you are feeling kinda. I used to be married and once I met her she had a 2 ½ YO / I went from being single to being a dad / It’s arduous / I’m divorced since 2017 & haven’t any children
Ok: I attempt very arduous however they’re very spoiled. They usually’re not my household. My dad and mom preserve telling me I’d really feel in a different way in the event that they have been mine. Or my very own sister’s. / Then I informed you he bought drunk and sloppy on NYE whereas we have been away and that has actually affected me.
B: What did he precisely do?
Ok: I by no means bought married. And now someway I’m arguing w somebody about elevating children (emoji)
B: Why received’t you inform me?
Ok: He was a puddle all day after which disappeared. Then I discovered him throughout good friend’s sister within the foyer of our lodge. And he or she’s gross, which I believe may very well be worse. Unsure.
B: Oh god / Did they bang?
Ok: So I used to be the youngsters celebrating New Years w/o him, which shouldn’t be my position. / No, I doubt it. He was a multitude.
B: Hmmm / Was it the primary time along with her or do you assume there have been others
Ok: I don’t actually assume there have been others. I’m with him all the time. He by no means appears to need to go anyplace w/o me. However actually the problems with the youngsters trouble me greater than him truly dishonest. They’re fixed and it looks like a lose/lose.
B: Hmmmm / You clearly have lots of emotions swirling inside you.
Ok: Yeah it’s very sophisticated. Sorry for the rant.
B: You possibly can vent babe
Ok: Principally I simply really feel like I unfold myself too skinny and typically it’s thankless.
B: Hmm
Ok: You prbly felt that method too
B: I did at occasions / It was one, not two fortunately
Ok: Wish to seize a drink?
B: When you gave me some discover I might have
Ok: YOU mentioned you have been adaptable
B: I’m / However I’ve my work truck with me & not my private / Do you get offended once you don’t get your method
Ok: That seems like an excuse. / I not often get my method
B: I don’t make excuse / Excuses / If I don’t need to cope with somebody I inform them after which I’m ghost / Why do you even wanna cling with me?
Ok: Don’t we already hang around?
B: I don’t make excuses
Ok: Work truck/private truck? That doesn’t sound like an enormous downside / I find yourself consuming with you at the very least as soon as every week I’d say..
B: I can’t use my work truck for transportation to go drink / You assume so / What makes you so positive / In all probability can be enjoyable
Ok: I believe I see you about as soon as every week at a bar, no?
B: Not recently however sure
Ok: Okay…so that you requested why I need to hang around. I’m simply saying that I already hang around with you.
B: Yeah, however we have now by no means one on one
Ok: Does going to a good friend’s home qualify as transportation to drink?
B: Yeah, trigger I can’t simply have one / Can’t drive that banged up
Ok; Have none then / There’s 5 bedrooms right here
B: Does mine have a lock on the door?
Ok: Lol / I don’t even know / I believe so
B: You most likely have a spare key
Ok: I don’t know if I’ve ever shut and locked a door right here
B: Humorous / Belief me I’m tempted
Ok: Seize the Hennessy, thanks doll
B: Humorous / I’m confused. You don’t really feel responsible inviting me over?
Ok: Ought to I?
B: I don’t know / Who is aware of what you are feeling / Solely know what you mentioned once you have been consuming Hennessy / Ha Ha
Ok: Geez I simply defined the whole lot, I believed
B: Wow, you get offended straightforward
Ok: What are you speaking about? I’m not offended within the least
B: Okay / Good
Ok: And I haven’t had a single drink immediately.
B: Okay
Ok: I don’t actually assume I ought to really feel responsible
B: Why is that
Ok: Why ought to I not?
B: Dude, I’m simply asking / Don’t get your thong all snarled
Ok: Yeah I simply didn’t know what the query was / You haven’t any impression on my thong (Higgins reacts with exclamation marks)
Ok: I believe I attempt my greatest to do proper by folks and typically ppl suck. And I’m not married nor do I’ve children.
B: I agree / However you kinda have a dwell in boyfriend? / You act like I ask dumb questions
Ok: Yeah form of. But it surely’s been a very long time and there’s ups and downs so sooner or later it’s important to assume extra rationally.
B: Do you intend on leaving him?
Ok: I’m sorry – I don’t assume they’re dumb! It’s simply arduous forwards and backwards on textual content to grasp the query. While you requested “what day?” earlier, re: my bday, I believed for a full minute that you just meant what day did I used to look at the Brady Bunch. (And I had typed in a textual content “every school day at 4:00 and 4:30)
B: I meant what day was your BDAY
K: I don’t have any plans at the moment. In either direction. Sometimes I go back and forth.. / Yeah – I figured that out!
B: What’s your interest in me?
K: I assume ppl have been interested in you before…
B: True
K: First, I think you’re fun to talk too. I like sizing other ppl up. / And you seem to be private, which I also like / And probably pretty independent too, which I also like
B: I am a ton of fun. I am super private & do not talk out of school. I am safe. Does that make sense? / I am all of that & more
K: Safe?
B: Like I am private / Don’t talk out of school / With what I do or who I hang with / Do I aggravate you?
K: Haha no! / According to John, you may occasionally talk out of school 😉
B: He said that about me?
K: But that’s none of my business
B: With respects to what exactly?
K: None of my biz
B: So then why invite me to your house party? / Now I am aggravated
K: Tonight’s house party or last week? / Omg why??
B: Last week / Like why would he talk shut about me?
K: Because we all like you. Everyone does. Geesh.
B: You just said he talked shit about me
K: He wasn’t talking shit at all. He always says how much he likes you. Just mentioned “Brian Does all right for himself.” / He has not mentioned one destructive factor about you ever. I simply didn’t assume you have been THAT non-public, that’s all.
B: I’m about lots of issues
Ok: Don’t be so delicate 😉
B: I’m good
Ok: Oh geez. Are your panties in a twist now? Cease
B: Nah, my boxers are simply positive
Ok: Okay, so that you’re not gonna run your work truck by the gears tonight? I believed you have been tons of enjoyable.
B: No, I’m not. As a lot as I wish to. / Transferring on to the subsequent name?
Ok: Huh? / Will you cease?
B: You delicate once more?
Ok: I can’t actually comply with your thought course of / You retain form of insulting me a little bit..
B: I’m nonetheless confused why you need to cling with me. It’s all so out of left discipline. / No, I’m not
Ok: Are you single?
B: Sure
Ok: I don’t assume it’s out of left discipline / Wasn’t I already begging you to return over final Saturday??
B: You getting my quantity from Melissa & reaching out to me?
Ok: And on vacay and prbly a couple of different events?
B: You probably did t actually beg
Ok: I requested at the very least twice / How do ppl normally attain out to one another??
B: Why would I’ve thought you had any curiosity in me? / Ummm, normally do it once they do dwell with somebody / Don’t
Ok: Possibly, possibly not.
B: So you may have despatched me indicators earlier than? / Did I miss them?
Ok: John and I’ve had lots of ups and downs. And we already did this almost 20yrs in the past. And there’s children concerned that get connected and issues get muddy. I don’t know what the reply is. However I really feel very strongly that I’ve put my greatest effort in with all three of them. And the prolonged household too. In some unspecified time in the future it will get irritating and my precise emotions take priority.
B: I get it / I’m not denying that or that it will get robust / Do you keep in mind something you mentioned to me there different evening?
Ok: I’m simply attempting to elucidate the place I’m coming from / Sure
B: I get it
Ok: I deleted it as a result of I didn’t need to do my very own textual content Stroll of Disgrace / However I’m fairly positive I keep in mind the whole lot
B: Ummm, okay / So don’t you assume it might complicate and confuse your scenario if we frolicked? / Truthful query?
Ok: In all probability / Do you solely do issues that simplify your life? / Nope I complicate my life on the common
Ok: Yeah so does everybody else
B: Simply so you recognize I believed you have been extraordinarily sizzling off the rip. Superb character. / I might go on and on however I don’t wanna pump your shut up an excessive amount of
Ok: Thanks for saying that 🙂 However low comps at Hillside
B: You understand how to spoil one thing good / I frequent different locations
Ok: John has confirmed me about 5 occasions the Ring video of me strolling you out on Sat and my voice and my accent are killing me softly (vomit emotion)
B: Ummmm / What????
Ok: Yeah. he has cameras in every single place. You cops (emoji)
B: Jesus
Ok: He’s like “Christ, are you guys hooking up??”
B: OMG, nice / I don’t want drama dude
Ok: No it’s positive
B: Significantly
Ok: I’m severe!
B: You legit planted one on me
Ok: I do know the place the cameras are anyway duh / Omg bruins
B: So your slick transfer isn’t on there????
Ok: Course not
B: OMG / I virtually (vomit emoji)
Ok: It was a peck anyway. I kissed Kerry and homosexual Jeff too.
B: Yeah, weak / I agree
Ok: Lol. Humorous
B: So now he’s jealous of me?
Ok: No! / I informed you he likes you numerous.
B: Which makes this worse?
Ok: You mentioned or did one thing on the bar final week and he goes “I like Brian more and more”
B: I believe he is an efficient dude too
Ok: Yeah he’s
B: Humorous / What’s your finish sport? / What would you like from me? / You’ll simply confuse the shot out of your self / Shit / As a result of I’m lots of enjoyable
Ok: So am I / I’m positive extra enjoyable than you
B: How so? / Particulars
Ok: I don’t know. I hate folks on the entire however I’ve been informed by many ppl that I’m lots of enjoyable. I don’t do something half ass. Nothing.
B: Hmmmm / So what would you like from me?
Ok: I don’t know..? / I similar to you so I reached out…
B: You’ve zero thought?
Ok: Nope
B: Oh god
Ok: (eye roll emoji) / What now? / Why ‘oh god’?
B: As a result of I want some route
Ok: Nicely I’m not an f’g oracle, sorry
B: That’s truly humorous / Do you ultimately get what you need?
Ok: I informed you – RARELY
B: So that you’re a quitter
Ok: A realist
B: So that you reached out to me, a ballsy transfer. Now what?
Ok: The issues I’ve labored the toughest for have meant essentially the most.
B: Does Melissa know you dig me?
Ok: Ballsy? Not likely. I already know you.
B: True, however you may have a person
Ok: I figured if you happen to textual content w Melissa, you’d def textual content w me
B: She isn’t attempting to hold with me.
Ok: In fact she is!?
B: Plus I by no means actually texted along with her apart from to see in the event that they have been headed out.
Ok: I requested you over, is what. You made excuses. That’s positive. However I’m not asking once more ; )
B: She doesn’t like me like that?
Ok: I’m positive she does
B: What makes you so positive?
Ok: Bc she mentioned “I’d live to set Brian up w my sister. She deserves such a good guy like him.”
B: That doesn’t imply she needs to bang me heeself
Ok: and I believe Lito is form of a dink, so I’m positive Melissa likes you a wee bit
B: Herself / Yeah, he’s fascinating
Ok: Have you ever all the time had bother accepting compliments?? Yeesh
B: No, it in any respect / All yours got here to me after a day of consuming / You have been far more throughout me that day (Learn reacts with query mark)
Ok: So what? Don’t most compliments come that method??
B: Like throughout me with compliments and the way you felt
Ok: It was 3:30am
B: It was enjoyable
Ok: I’ve complimented you immediately too!! (offended emoji)
B: & kicked my nutz in
Ok: Omg how??
B: If I had extra discover I’d have grabbed a drink someplace. So I’m all set with……”That’s positive however I’m not asking once more”
Ok: Nicely it was 7pm. And I’m tremendous cool. So proper, now asking once more 😉
B: Coming to your home would have been unhealthy for each of us. For began you wouldn’t have needed me to go away.
Ok: Now=not / That sounds good
B: That’s bother……. / Since you would have made me keep / Locked me in your room
Ok: No I wouldn’t have / Haha you want. / I don’t share a mattress with anybody ever / I’ve my very own room in Canton
B: What
Ok: Yeah I believe sharing a mattress is archaic
B: Is that the one you needed me tk keep in?? / You sit prefer to be spooned??? / You don’t
Ok: Not for greater than a minute or two
B: Bizarre you’ll moderately sleep alone
Ok: I’ve bought to make my sleep rely! / So doesn’t everybody / Truthfully, I’m the world’s lightest sleeper. I can hear an ant crawling throughout the ground. And I get up virtually hourly, which isn’t honest to whoever I’m sleeping with.
B: Okay / Wager Melissa isn’t like that / Ha Ha / Lori wouldn’t like that
Ok: I do know for a reality Melissa isn’t like that / She informed me she will be able to’t even go to sleep except they’re spooning. Lito rolled his eyes and pointed a gun at his head / You’ve prbly started working in your “truck”. Discuss quickly 🙂
B: No matter
Ok: Loosen up Francis
B: Let me know once you determine your shut out
Ok: That’s a tailor made joke for an Military vet / Nobody else has it found out, why do I?
B: Fight vet
Ok: I didn’t say non-combat / I informed Sat I believe you’re sizzling and since informed you the way cool I believe you’re. Possibly you’re truly a jerk. What would you like me to say/do? / I’m fairly positive you’re seeing folks too
B: I’m not a jerk. Don’t change the narrative to go well with your self. Personal your phrases.
Ok: I don’t assume you’re a jerk / I don’t have easy solutions to your questions
B: It’s truly easy / What would you like from me? What do you need?
Ok: To begin, I’d similar to to hang around. As a result of I like to speak to you and listen to what it’s important to say. / If that’s it, I’d be completely satisfied
B: Okay, I’ll lock you into that assertion
Ok: That’s positive
B: I think you’ll hand over ultimately. Simply so you recognize I’ll nonetheless be your good friend.
Ok: Clearly you’re attempting to offer me the Heisman
B: No, in no way / Why would you say that?
Ok: As a result of I’ve tried and I’m failing
B: Tried what? / Failing what?
Ok: Scorching and character and what else? What’s the “I could go on and on” half? Bc it looks like a Heisman sugar-coated w a couple of compliments. That’s okay. / I requested you over. On a seemingly uneventful Tuesday
B: Yea, with zero heads up. I’ve to stand up at 4:30am. / Didn’t hear from you yesterday in any respect so I ought to have been a thoughts reader that you just have been going to increase a suggestion to your crib for a drink. / When you wanna hand over that’s on you. / You’re fooling around / For the document
Ok: No I’m busting your chops. It’s okay
B: No, you’re delicate / Good attempt / You don’t assume if I came to visit for a drink we might have gotten carried away?
Ok: YOU mentioned you have been adaptable and tons of enjoyable. I took that as an invitation for an invitation.
B: Oh, okay
Ok: I’m 42. I do know what occurs once you invite somebody over for a drink.
B: You’re the grasp of avoidance / So that you assume I’d simply give it yo to you? / Give it up
Ok: I’ve been quite a bit in my life. I’ve a little bit little bit of a carpe diem mindset. / Been by / What am I avoiding?? / I’m not afraid to be direct
B: A few of my questions
Ok: Okay, which? Ask once more?
B: Nope / Trix are for youths
Ok: I’m fairly positive we might’ve attached
B: Okay
Ok: I can’t say that?
B: In fact you may
Ok: Did I miss every other questions sir?
B: In all probability / Are you having a drink proper now?
Ok: Yeah, on my second
B: Present me what you bought
Ok: I went for some wine and downgraded to a mudslide – the Taunton in me (image of her drink)
B: Ha Ha / I needed to make one other one since you bought me all labored up
Ok: I might’ve made it for you weirdo
B: Certain you may have carried out quite a bit
Ok: And you bought your self labored up buddy
B: Yup, I’m / {That a} crime?
Ok: Are you aggravated?
B: Kinda
Ok: Why??
B: since you there this provide on me final minutev / Threw
Ok: You could possibly’ve made three spherical journeys by now
B: Oh I guess / Crickets
Ok: 4 spherical journeys..
B: Chew me
Ok: Geez that’s contemporary / So that you solely say, like, one good factor per day? Powerful
B: You’re unimaginable / LMK once you determine this out
Ok: You’re unimaginable 😉 / I’ve been fairly easy / You’re wishy washy / What do YOU need from ME?
B: Doesn’t matter
Ok: Okay then
Wednesday, Jan. 19, 2022. 10:08 a.m.
B: Sup
Ok: Sup
B: You inform me playa
Ok: Simply working remotely (eye roll emoji)
B: Candy / From Mansfield?
Ok: Yup / You?
B: I’m in Canton in the mean time / I need to drink / Ha Ha / Is that unhealthy?
Ok: Actually? / I believe day consuming as soon as every week is okay / Go have fun the twentieth anniversary of the Tuck Rule (beer emoji)
B: I can wait till tonight
Wednesday, Jan. 19, 2022. 1:07 p.m.
Ok: The place are you planning on heading?
B: Unsure
Wednesday, Jan. 19, 2022. 3:34 p.m.
Ok: I’d invite you over right here however you prbly have your work truck (eyeroll emoji)
B: Right here we go……
Ok: I assume that’s a cross. No prob. (Higgins reacts with query mark)
BL What’s flawed with you
Ok: Excuse me?
B: I didn’t reply quick sufficient?
Ok: Huh? The place’d you get that from / You’re robust to make plans with. I’m headed out shortly. I attempted (shrug emoji)
B: The place too?
Ok: I’m assembly my good friend on the town until about 7 after which possible make my method again.
B: Okay / (Glasses emoji) / (sun shades emoji) / The place are you headed again too shady?
Ok: I assume which means shady? (eyeroll emoji) / I’m assembly my gal pal (who’s from Canton 🙂 / Again to Mansfield
B: Do I do know right here? / Title?
Ok: I don’t assume so…Julia Mellon? Lives on Sherman
B: Hmmmm / I’m not attempting to be tough / I simply don’t need any drama for both of us
Ok: I don’t both
B: Okay / Belief me I’m tempted
Ok: I don’t assume it’s an enormous deal.
B: What you coming over to my place?
Ok: Otherwise you coming over mine
B: Ummmm, okay / You clearly are getting aggravated with me & my lack of particiupation
Ok: No! I’m not aggravated in any respect.
B: Okay
Ok: We’re good. I’ll see you round.
B: I knew that is how you’ll act / Whatev / You will get most any man you need so that you’re not shedding any sleep over this.
Ok: None of that’s true! / I’m not speaking to every other guys. And I’ve points with John and issues are removed from excellent. You simply occur to find out about him bc all of us hang around on the identical bar. I’m positive you speak to different women. That’s what single ppl do. I’m not married and neither are you. Neither is John.
B: Was that your try at a lecture or deductive reasoning? / What would you like from me?
Ok: That’s simply how I believe/really feel. You don’t have to approve. / I’ve already answered that final query…a pair occasions, I believe..
B: I’m not judging you / By no means have by no means will
Ok: You shouldn’t. / I don’t know what your non-public life is about. Neither is it my enterprise. / You simply occur to know that I see somebody. I don’t have children and I’m not married.
B: Aren’t you afraid you would possibly truly like me……
Ok: I don’t assume that’s a foul factor. Isn’t that the purpose?
B: Nicely, it might be sophisticated as a result of you may have a boyfriend. / Humorous you mentioned we’re quite a bit alike….trigger we’re
Ok: Yeah life by no means stays the identical. Issues all the time change
B: Okay
Ok: Why are we alike? In response to you?
B: As a result of we go along with our intestine and the way we really feel. Isn’t that kinda what you informed me?
Ok: Sure that’s true
B: Have an excellent evening. You’re clearly irritated. / Sorry to trouble younger / You
Ok: Both texting is unhealthy otherwise you’re delicate. I’m not irritated in any respect. I swear. / I had been going out with somebody for a couple of years once I reconnected with John. And John and I bought on very effectively on the identical time so I broke it off the opposite man. He was prbly beginning to see different ppl if I used to be utterly trustworthy w myself. / I don’t really feel unhealthy about any of that. I believe it was meant to work out that method.
B: So what’s your level? / Are you legitimately , sad in your relationship, made since you noticed him throughout one other lady or a hybrid of all of it.
Ok: My solely pt is that there’s a distinction between being married to somebody and relationship them. And we have now no intention of EVER getting married. The pt of relationship is to not get tied down if you happen to’re not assured try to be. In my thoughts anyway. / The primary two, however I don’t care an excessive amount of in regards to the different lady.
B: Okay, so he’s cool with you relationship different folks?
Ok: And I’m not completely satisfied per se, simply lifelike that there’s cracks and it’s removed from excellent / I doubt it. / If he’s seeing another person I wouldn’t need to know both method. He prbly feels the identical. And also you prbly really feel that method about whoever you hook up with. I believe that’s regular.
B: You make some legitimate factors.
Ok: No shit Sherlock 😉
B: (center finger emoji)
Ok: C’mon, I’m humorous!
B: Sit on that & spin
Ok: See now it’s important to go under the belt
B: Like it there / Do you put on belts?
Ok: Solely on occasion
B: Okay
Ok: After I go into the workplace
B: Okay
Ok: Rando
B: Ha Ha / I used to be teasing you / You getting all dressed up for me? / Ha Ha
Ok: I just about put on all black on daily basis
B: Like it / The place are you going on the town?
Ok: Newbury. She works there
B: Doing?
Ok: She works for my good friend who’s a plastic surgeon. That’s how I do know her. Coincidence she lives across the nook.
B: So humorous / Across the nook out of your second residence / Ha Ha
Ok: Oh haha (eyeroll emoji) / I had come downtown earlier so informed her I’d meet her for a drink
B: You there now? / You prefer to my spot on the Cape / I’ve an excellent spot for dinner & drinks down there
Ok: Are you there tonight? / Im a seashore worshipper
B: (picture of a drink in a glass)
Ok: The place’s that?
B: I’m in West Roxbury / A spot within the West Rox/Dedham line. / I’ve a cross to drive my Jeep on the seashore. / A number of enjoyable available
Ok: I heard. I used to hire with my buddies on the seashore for seven straight years. I miss it. I’ve been occupied with transferring to Tiverton.
B: I may give you all of the “beach life” you may deal with. / Stopping by for a drink later?
Ok: By the place?
B: My spot in West Rox
Ok: Prbly not for a bit..
B: Okay…..
Ok: At a bar?
B: I wasn’t suggesting anytime quickly / I do know you’re along with your good friend / I meant my home
Ok: Prbly after 8
B: Okay / When you don’t wanna that’s positive / No stress
Ok: I’ll. A drink. (Higgins reacts with query mark)
B: What do you drink? / Are you out now?
Ok: Sorry – I’ll drink whiskey if that’s what you’re having
B: Ha Ha / Ship me A pic of you two
Ok: I normally drink regardless of the particular person with me is having
B: Oh okay
Ok: I don’t take selfies both 😉 / I don’t actually even understand how
B: No matter / I needed to see your smile
Ok: Ugh I hate having my picture taken
B: Weak
Ok: Sorry. I’m a really explicit particular person.
B: What’s that imply / Okay, by no means thoughts / Go get pleasure from your good friend
Ok: Go clear your home will ya?
B: My shit is spotless
Ok: Haha I figured
B: My shot is tight / Shit / Certain you may deal with this
Ok: Puh-lease
B: Chew me
Ok: Cease saying contemporary issues
B: Why / Are these statements tempting
Ok: Nope
B: Oh
Ok: Which statements
B: Maybe it is best to drive on to Mansfield.
Ok: You mentioned “bite me” like thrice
B: Okay
Ok: 8:30ish too late?
B: For what?
Ok: Drink
B: No / Why
Ok: Are we not assembly up?
B: You possibly can cease over / For a drink / Ball(s) in your court docket
Ok: Are you gonna give me the handle
B: Yeah
Ok: We don’t have to fulfill up if you happen to don’t need to. However I’m leaving city now.
B: I’m up for a drink
Ok: Okay ought to I drive round W Roxbury yelling your title???
B: Ha Ha / Nooo / The place are you now
Ok: Newbury
B: Do you actually need to come over?
Ok: Solely if you need me to
B: Can you are taking cost
Ok: I believed we already settled this..
B: Ha Ha
Ok: Okay effectively I’m in my automobile now and getting on the freeway. This looks like I’m forcing you.
B: By no means / I’m sport
Ok: Okay effectively I’d prefer to know the place the hell im going. Pike or 93.
B: You simply need to meet me on the Corrib or do you simply need to come over? / Pike I’d daub / Say
Ok: You determine. I don’t know both
B: No matter you need
Ok: I don’t both place so wherever you’re comfy
B: You understand anybody in West Rox?
Ok: I don’t assume so
B: Ha Ha / Then simply cease by for a drink / As much as you / No stress
Ok: Simply give me an handle. I hate texting whereas driving 🙂
B: Bryant Highway / Textual content me when shut
Ok: Okay
B: I’ll present you the place to print / Park
Ok: That’s W Rox? It’s not arising
B: Yea / Then put Boston in
Ok: (exhibits a display seize of a mapping app suggesting a Bryant Drive in Roxbury Township in New Jersey)
B: First one / What app do you utilize / Flip round on the road. Park on the prime of the road throughout from the crimson mini van. / LMK once you’re right here.
Ok: HEre
BL Okay
Wednesday Jan. 19, 2022. 11:13 p.m.
Ok: Residence. Alive. (wink emoji)
B: Cool / Ideas?
Ok: Maybes.. / You?
B: What?
Ok: You requested my ideas?
B: You didn’t reply
Ok: I don’t know my ideas…
B: Okay, I believe I get it
Ok: You’ve any??
Thursday, Jan. 20, 2022. 12:27 p.m.
B: Hello, how is your day?
Ok: Good, yours! / ?
B: I’m exhausted
Ok: Yeah that makes two of us.
B: However I desire a drink lol
Ok: Actually? I’ll offer you Hardy’s digits 😉
B: Who????
Ok: Hardy from 98.5 noon present? He hangs out on the Currans typically. He’s a spokesperson for Restoration Facilities of America 😉
B: Ha Ha / I don’t have an issue
Ok: Kidding
B: I do know
Sunday, Jan. 23, 2022. 7:58 p.m.
B: (some form of photoshopped picture of Tom Brady shirtless and operating throughout an finish zone throwing a peace signal, possibly)
Ok: Good riddance
B: Ha Ha / Stranger / Stranger
Ok: Hey I used to be at Hilly all weekend
B: Haven’t heard from you
Sunday, Jan. 23, 2022. 9:40 p.m.
Ok: Telephone works (emoji displaying a double-ended arrow, implying two methods)
B: Thought you have been all set?
Ok: With speaking? No..
B: Hmmmm / You positive
Friday, Jan. 28, 2022. 11:32 p.m.
B: Ummmmmm / Nicely
Saturday, Jan. 29, 2022. 11:54 a.m.
Ok: John died
