For the state of California, President Donald Trump’s deployment of Marines and Nationwide Guard in response to protests over immigration raids in Los Angeles was an unlawful “military crusade” based mostly on Trump’s want to push his political agenda and silence dissent. For the Trump administration, it’s concerning the safety of federal legislation enforcement officers in opposition to a “rebellion.”
For a choose who weighed each of these arguments this week in San Francisco, it’s as much as him to resolve what the bounds are on presidential energy, at a time when that president’s thirst for militarizing cities is rising and Justice Division attorneys argue that states haven’t any alternative on the matter.
Senior U.S. District Decide Charles Breyer heard arguments, proof and witness testimony over three days this week underpinning California Gov. Gavin Newsom’s lawsuit in opposition to the Trump administration, alleging that the federalization of troops deployed to the Golden State violated the Posse Comitatus Act. The 1878 legislation bans using the army in civilian legislation enforcement actions until there’s consent from Congress or it’s “expressly authorized by the Constitution.”
The administration’s arguments appeared to largely hinge on claims that Trump’s authority to deploy forces is sweeping as a result of he has a vested curiosity in defending america and that’s a part of his inherent constitutional powers as president — the doctrine known as “protective power.” In impact, the division argued, it was just about not possible for Trump to violate the Posse Comitatus Act.
“Even if the plaintiffs can bring a civil cause of action under the theory that the government’s conduct was “ultra vires” ― which means past its lawful powers ― the usual is exceedingly excessive,” Justice Division legal professional Eric Hamilton mentioned.
Breyer typically appeared doubtful when it got here to most of the Justice Division’s arguments. He additionally appeared skeptical of the carve-outs and exceptions the administration mentioned gave Trump huge powers. At one level, he even requested Justice Division attorneys why he was being bothered to overview reams of proof concerning the Posse Comitatus Act in any respect, because it appeared the president had already drummed up an exception that made it irrelevant.
“I mean, it’s like, gee, maybe you should tell your client that they don’t have to follow the Posse Comitatus Act if that’s your view,” he mentioned. At a later level, Breyer informed one U.S. legal professional that “you can’t just look at words and, sort of like ‘Alice in Wonderland,’ say words mean whatever I want them to mean.”
The case centered on Trump’s transfer to deploy 4,000 Nationwide Guard troops and 700 Marines to Los Angeles this summer time, over the objection of the state officers who would usually have jurisdiction. Trump claimed they have been wanted as a result of supposed rioting, an echo of the declare he would use once more the identical day in a unique venue when the trial began: On Monday, Trump formally introduced that he was deploying 800 Nationwide Guard troops into Washington, D.C. and threatened that extra cities may quickly discover themselves underneath a federal takeover together with New York Metropolis, Baltimore, Chicago and Oakland.
The mix of the trial in California and the troops mobilized to D.C. offers a brand new urgency to the difficulty earlier than Breyer. When urging the choose to subject a preliminary injunction, or a cease, to Trump’s deployment of troops to Los Angeles and declare that he violated the legislation, California Deputy Lawyer Basic Meghan Robust encapsulated the stakes that are actually concerned for each American.
“The federal government wants a display of military force so great that any lawful opposition to their agenda is effectively silenced,” she mentioned.
What Hangs In The Stability
Newsom by no means needed federalized troops trawling Los Angeles. Immigration enforcement, he mentioned in June, was one thing California was “no stranger to” and no federal help was required. The identical went for quelling pockets of civil unrest that sprang up in response to staged immigration raids, together with these at MacArthur Park — a public park, not federal property — the place practically 100 troops outfitted with Humvees and different “shows of force” appeared however in the end got here up empty-handed.
Trump’s memo calling up the Guard and Marines claimed that the protests in Los Angeles “constitute a form of rebellion against the authority of the government of the United States,” which allowed him to invoke a statute often called Part 12406. The obscure federal code states that if there’s a revolt or “danger of a rebellion” in opposition to the federal government, and it can’t be resolved by common order, then the president has the fitting to “call into Federal Service” any quantity of Nationwide Guard he deems applicable.
“Rebellion” just isn’t legally outlined, however even when it have been, the state of California says it wouldn’t matter on this occasion as a result of the protests in Los Angeles by no means got here shut to really overwhelming native, state or federal legislation enforcement. And as soon as troops have been on the bottom, the state says, the Trump administration made direct and lively use of the army to execute the legal guidelines, one thing that’s verboten underneath the Posse Comitatus Act.
The Trump administration insists these troops have been solely there in an oblique capability and have been offering “protection” and assist to federal brokers underneath what Protection Division memos deemed “constitutional exceptions” to the 1878 legislation. And what’s extra, the Justice Division claims that as a result of the Posse Comitatus Act is a felony statute, and Newsom introduced a civil lawsuit to cease the administration, Breyer lacks the jurisdiction to position any injunction on the president.
When Breyer heard this in court docket, it appeared to cease him chilly. He posed a hypothetical to DOJ legal professional Eric Hamilton: If, Breyer mentioned, Trump had violated the Posse Comitatus Act, what then?
“What then is the remedy? You say there is no civil remedy. Are you saying the president could be prosecuted by the Department of Justice for a criminal act? And you say that in light of the Supreme Court’s immunity decision. Isn’t he immune?” Breyer requested, referencing the 2024 Supreme Courtroom ruling which declared the president has authorized immunity for something associated to his “official” acts.
Whereas Hamilton agreed that prosecution will surely “implicate immunity issues,” the purpose was that, within the view of the U.S. authorities, regardless of the defendant, there was no treatment out there.
Breyer appeared deeply skeptical. “So that’s it? It’s too bad, so sad, it’s over?” he requested. “And that’s the end of the case, even though it’s a violation, allegedly, of the Posse Comitatus Act?”
This line of argument didn’t shock attorneys for California, who left the choose with a stark evaluation of an issue that has the potential to overflow past the borders of 1 state.
“It lacks basic common sense to assert that a state that is being occupied by a standing army within the state’s borders has no legal recourse to challenge the unlawful conduct of these troops. That defies the basic principles of federalism and it ignores Congress’ clear intent when enacting the Posse Comitatus Act,” Robust argued.
A Rock And A Onerous Place
Through the years, the Posse Comitatus Act has been interpreted by the courts at size and it has all the time been a topic throughout the courts’ “core competence” to resolve, mentioned Laura Dickinson, a George Washington College Legislation College professor who focuses on nationwide safety, human rights points and issues involving the legislation of armed battle.
The judiciary is now in a large “difficulty,” she says, because it tries to steadiness reliable presidential deference with the pursuits of a public that also lives in a democracy certain by its Structure.
“The executive branch is making very, very broad arguments about the limits of the court’s powers that we haven’t seen before,” she mentioned.
Apart from the menace to the general public, an pointless deployment additionally creates lots of room for Marines and Nationwide Guard to seek out themselves in perilous or demoralizing conditions. With extra boots on the bottom in American cities, the primary threat, after all, is that individuals’s rights may very well be violated.

“The Constitution applies to everything police do on U.S. soil and everything the military might do in a policing role on U.S. soil., so people have rights to be free from excessive use of force, or unwarranted or unlawful search and seizure,” Dickinson mentioned. “The thing is, the National Guard and the Marines don’t get a lot of training, generally speaking, on what is considered essential to policing. Right now, [the] Guard under state control do some supporting work, so some units are getting training. But it’s very uneven around the country, and the rules for use of force by the military or Guard are very different in times of peace versus times of war.”
When troops are put right into a risky and extremely politicized dynamic by policing fellow residents, Dickinson mentioned it “puts them on a knife’s edge.”
“They must follow lawful orders of civilian authorities. That is crucial in a democracy, that is crucial for good order and discipline in the military. They are legally obligated to follow those orders. At the same time, they could be responsible for refusing to disobey manifestly unlawful orders,” she mentioned. “When you put members of our military or National Guard, who have made great sacrifices to serve this country in this difficult position, it is really damaging.”
Militarized cities aren’t normally present in democracies. By placing the nation’s cities, army and judiciary within the scenario, it’s having the precise reverse impact of the sturdy, secure, flourishing America Trump boasts of.
“It risks making the U.S. look weak and unstable,” she mentioned.
The place does this finish?
After the trial concluded, Decide Breyer didn’t say how shortly he would subject a ruling however solely that it could be “soon.”
If he guidelines in favor of California and finds that Trump violated the Posse Comitatus Act, then the administration will attraction, Hamilton mentioned in court docket on Wednesday. The case will then go to the ninth Circuit Courtroom of Appeals. In June, forward of the trial, the appellate court docket already dominated that troops in L.A. may keep whereas litigation was pending as a result of Trump had in depth, however not “unreviewable,” authority to deploy troops to American cities.
If the ninth Circuit upholds a ruling in favor of California, then the following seemingly plan of action for the Trump administration could be to go straight to the Supreme Courtroom with a request for arguments on the deserves of the case. There’s no assure that the Excessive Courtroom would hear it, however with any improve in troops being deployed, it might grow to be not possible for justices to disregard.
However by then, it might be too late.
Tom Homan, the appearing director of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, summed up the administration’s emotions when talking to reporters on Wednesday.
“President Trump doesn’t have a limitation on his authority to make this country safe,” he mentioned. “There is no limitation.”
Joseph Nunn, counsel within the Brennan Heart’s Liberty and Nationwide Safety Program, informed HuffPost that if Breyer points an injunction directing the president to demobilize the Nationwide Guard and hand management again to California, there technically is “no wiggle room,” legally talking, for Trump to disregard or flout the ruling.
If that occurs and the administration appeals, the ninth Circuit might choose to subject a keep on Breyer’s injunction whereas the deserves are weighed by the judges there. However in any state of affairs, Trump profitable or California profitable, Nunn sees a showdown on the Supreme Courtroom because the probably final result.
“It’s hard to know what Judge Breyer will decide but in an inevitable appeal… who knows what the Supreme Court will do, ultimately?” he mentioned.
Alternatively, Breyer might discover that the statute Trump invoked in his memo this June — Part 12406 — is a legitimate exception to the Posse Comitatus Act. Whereas Nunn mentioned he doesn’t learn it that means, he may see a scenario through which Breyer wouldn’t discover it solely unreasonable.
“The statute, in some ways, reads like it should be an exception to the Posse Comitatus Act and there are multiple exceptions to it, like the Insurrection Act, for example,” he mentioned.
Up to now, when presidents needed to make use of the army for home legislation enforcement, that was what they invoked.

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“The Posse Comitatus Act is the most important restriction on domestic activities of U.S. armed forces but it has an enforcement problem,” Nunn said. “This country has a problem when the president has too much authority to use the military domestically.”
Since it’s a felony statute, it must be enforced by the Justice Division. And Nunn says in all of U.S. historical past, solely two people have ever been prosecuted for violating the Posse Comitatus Act. (The convictions came in 1879, just a year after the law was enacted.) When alleged violations of the Posse Comitatus Act have come up in court before, it’s usually when a civilian criminal defendant has raised it in relation to charges against them, like asserting evidence against them was obtained in violation of the act, Nunn explained.
“California’s efforts here to enforce it through a civil suit seeking an injunction is novel. It hasn’t been tried before,” Nunn said. “But in these past cases, courts have virtually always found ways to either find that the Posse Comitatus Act did or did not apply, and if it was violated, make a remedy available.”
But here again, Nunn said, “there is a risk of arriving at this situation where this very important law is basically unenforceable.”
If the Trump administration is given even a modest green light by Breyer, Nunn said it’s really up to Congress to decide whether it will reform or rein in the powers a president has to authorize the military for domestic use.
“That’s Congress’ problem to fix. That’s not a function of the president,” Nunn said.
Laws that govern the domestic use of military force would need a broader overhaul. The law, Nunn said, is like a “bird’s nest of overlapping things with various loopholes that need to be closed.” But if just thinking about the Posse Comitatus Act, Nunn says the first thing that should be done is to make it so the act is not a criminal statute and reform it so that people and states can sue to stop violations of the act — and potentially seek damages — if they have been harmed.
The memo that Trump signed in June purporting to grant authority to the military to deploy federalized National Guard troops and other active duty forces is something Nunn said he encourages the American public to review carefully.
“The memo doesn’t mention Los Angeles. It doesn’t mention California. It has no time limit or temporal boundary. There is no geographic boundary. So that memorandum asserts the authority to deploy federal armed forces to assist law enforcement anywhere in the country at any time for any reason,” Nunn mentioned. “Nothing like this has ever happened before in the history of the United States. The last person to assert such sweeping authority to use the military anywhere at any time in this country was King George.”